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The killing of Charlie Kirk is sparking debate about political violence in the U.S., as well as the kinds of professional repercussions employees who speak out about the conservative activist’s death — and other hot- button issues — might face.  

A number of businesses and other organizations have shown employees the door this week because of their public remarks about Kirk, who was assassinated on Wednesday while giving a speech at Utah Valley University. Among those to lose their jobs or face other sanctions: a political pundit, a university employee, a sports reporter and a U.S. secret service agent.

Private employers have the law on their side when it comes to removing a worker who makes public statements that the business views as potentially harmful, according to legal experts.

“A private company can generally fire an employee for public comments, even political ones, if those comments are deemed to harm the company’s reputation, violate workplace policy or disrupt the business,” workplace attorney Marjorie Mesidor told CBS MoneyWatch.

Multiple firings

Employees in a range of industries, as well as in academia, are finding themselves in hot water over remarks they made about Kirk’s death or his political beliefs. 

PHNX Sports, an online sports news site focused on Arizona, announced the firing of reporter Gerald Bourguet after he said on social media on Wednesday, in a since-deleted post, that “Refusing to mourn a life devoted to that cause is not the same thing as celebrating gun violence.”

“Truly don’t care if you think it’s insensitive or poor timing to decline to respect an evil man who died,” he added. 

Bourguet declined to comment when reached by CBS MoneyWatch.

MSNBC said it cut ties with analyst Matthew Dowd after he said in an on-air conversation that Kirk had pushed incendiary speech and that “hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.” In a public statement, Comcast accused Dowd of making “an unacceptable and insensitive comment about this horrific event.” 

“That coverage was at odds with fostering civil dialogue and being willing to listen to the points of view of those who have differing opinions. We should be able to disagree, robustly and passionately, but, ultimately, with respect. We need to do better,” Comcast executives said.  

Dowd, the former chief strategist for Republican President George W. Bush, apologized in a Substack post on Friday, saying he hadn’t meant to imply Kirk was to blame for the violence that killed him, the AP reported. But Dowd, a long-time political analyst at ABC News before joining MSNBC in 2022, also accused the network of caving to pressure to fire him. 

“The right wing media mob ginned up, went after me on a plethora of platforms, and MSNBC reacted to that mob,” he wrote on Substack. “Even though most at MSNBC knew my words were being misconstrued, the timing of my words forgotten … and that I apologized for any miscommunication on my part, I was terminated by the end of the day.”

Middle Tennessee State University said in statement that it had fired a university employee over “inappropriate and callous comments on social media concerning the horrific and tragic murder of Charlie Kirk.”

Nasdaq, in a statement posted on X, said it dismissed an employee over social media posts related to Kirk’s shooting that the stock exchange said “were a clear violation of our policy.”

In a Facebook post, the U.S. Secret Service said it placed an agent who it said expressed negative opinions about Kirk on leave. “The U.S. Secret Service will not tolerate behavior that violates our code of conduct. This employee was immediately put on administrative leave, and an investigation has begun,” a U.S. Secret Service spokesperson said in a statement.

United Airlines told CBS News that it took action against employees who the company said had publicly commented on Kirk’s death. “Our mission at United Airlines is to connect people and unite the world. So we’ve been clear with our customers and employees that there’s zero tolerance for politically motivated violence or any attempt to justify it,” the carrier said in a statement to CBS News. 

U.S. Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy applauded United for “for doing what’s right by placing pilots celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk out of service. They must be fired,” in a statement on X. 

“There’s no room for political violence in America and anyone applauding it will face the consequences. ESPECIALLY those we count on to ensure the safety of the flying public,” Duffy wrote. 

Few protections 

First Amendment protections are generally limited for workers in the private sector, according to attorneys. 

“Employers often have a strong legal basis to terminate an employee if their public comments, especially on a high-profile and sensitive topic like a murder, cause reputational damage or customer backlash,” Mesidor said.

Some states — California, Louisiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, South Carolina and West Virginia — do have laws to protect employees from being fired for their conduct off the job, including their political speech and activity, but most do not. Maynard Nexsen attorney Andrew Kragie told CBS MoneyWatch that workers at private employers typically have little protection from punishment for their public comments.

“If someone says, ‘Thank goodness this person was assassinated,’ then generally their employer can fire them,” he said. That’s because most workers are employed at-will, meaning either party can terminate the contract at any time, for any reason, he explained. 

“So, most employees in the private sector can be disciplined based on what you say on social media, even if your account doesn’t identify you as an employee,” Kragie added.

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Charlie Kirk shooting suspect charged with aggravated murder, could face death penalty

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Court hoping to secure legal representation for Robinson by end of week, county attorney says

Part of the reason Robinson does not yet have an attorney is because public defenders do not handle capital cases in Utah County, an attorney for the county told CBS News.

Attorney Greg Skordas, who was part of Robinson’s court initial appearance on Tuesday but does not represent the suspect, is working for Utah County to find a lawyer for Robinson. 

Skordas said he has been conducting a search since last week and had originally hoped to have Robinson’s attorneys finalized by 3 p.m. Tuesday. He has narrowed the field to three or four firms and now expects the process to be completed by the end of this week, he said.

Skordas said the county will likely contract with two law firms and set parameters on attorneys’ hourly rates and determine budgets for private investigators, expert witnesses and other legal costs that would be incurred in Robinson’s defense.


By Arden Farhi

 

State formally files to seek death penalty

Following Robinson’s initial court appearance, the state of Utah filed its intent to seek the death penalty, which prosecutors said they would do during the hearing.

“The State of Utah, by and through its counsel, Jeffrey S. Gray, Utah County Attorney, and pursuant to Utah Code Ann. § 76-5-202(3) (2022), hereby gives notice of its intent to seek the death penalty for Count 1, Aggravated Murder, as charged in the Information,” the notice reads. 


By Jordan Freiman

 

Robinson will be appointed an attorney

Robinson did not have an attorney for his first court appearance on Tuesday. Judge Tony Graf said at the outset of the hearing that he had found Robinson to be “indigent,” meaning he is not able to afford his own attorney, and that Graf will appoint a lawyer to represent him.

Tyler Robinson made his first court appearance virtually in Provo, Utah, on Sept. 16.

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Graf also reiterated Robinson’s right to remain silent and the possibility that anything Robinson said during Tuesday’s hearing could be used against him in future court appearances.

Aside from stating his name as “Tyler James Robinson” at the beginning, Robinson remained silent throughout the proceedings.


By Jordan Freiman

 

Tyler Robinson appears virtually in court

Robinson appeared virtually before Judge Tony Graf on Tuesday afternoon after being charged with aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm, two counts of obstruction of justice, two counts of witness tampering, and committing a violent offense in the presence of a child. He stood in front of a beige cinderblock wall and was wearing what appeared to be a black velcro vest.

Prosecutors announced their intention to seek the death penalty if Robinson is found guilty, and Graf granted a pretrial protective order for Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk. 

Graf then read through each of the charges and the prosecutors’ reasoning behind them.

Graf said the next court appearance, a waiver hearing, would be held on Sept. 29 at 10 a.m. local time. Graf said Robinson will remain jailed without bail.


By Jordan Freiman

 

Police found targets with bullet holes at Robinson’s home

Police found several targets with bullet holes in Robinson’s home, according to Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray and charging documents. 

Robinson allegedly told his roommate that he had been planning to kill Kirk for about a week, according to text messages included in the charging documents. Investigators also say they found a shell with an engraved message on it at the same residence.


By Kerry Breen

 

Robinson’s parents recognized him in surveillance images, prosecutors say

Robinson’s parents told police that they recognized their son in the images released by the FBI on Thursday, Sept. 11, the day after the shooting, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray said. 

Officials say Robinson’s mother told police that she saw the photo and thought it resembled her son. She called him and asked where he was. He said he was home sick, and had also been sick the day before. 

According to Gray, Robinson’s mother told his father that she was concerned their son had been the shooter. Robinson’s father agreed that the suspect looked like Robinson, and said that the gun that police were describing matched a rifle that was given to Robinson as a gift. He texted his son to ask for a photo of the rifle, but got no response. 

Robinson’s father did speak to him on the phone, Gray said, and Robinson implied he would take his own life, but his parents were able to convince him to meet them at their home. During a conversation there, Gray said Robinson implied he was the shooter. They talked about turning himself in and convinced Robinson to speak with a family friend who is a retired deputy sheriff. The parents and friend were able to convince Robinson to turn himself in, Gray said. The family friend also urged Robinson to bring all available evidence to the police station to prevent a search warrant from being served at his parents’ house. 


By Kerry Breen

 

Suspect worried about losing “grandpa’s rifle,” prosecutors say

In a text exchange with his roommate after the shooting, prosecutors say Robinson expressed concern about being unable to retrieve the rifle he had hidden after leaving the scene of the shooting because police had cordoned off the area.

“I’m worried what my old man would do if I didn’t bring back grandpa’s rifle,” he allegedly wrote.

“I might have to abandon it and hope they don’t find prints,” he continued, according to Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray. “How the ‘f’ will I explain losing it to my old man?”


By Paula Cohen

 

Robinson’s roommate provided text messages to police, officials say

Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray said Robinson exchanged messages with his roommate after the shooting, and the roommate provided those messages to police.

The roommate told investigators Robinson left a note saying, “I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I’m going to take it,” Gray said.

In a text exchange, the roommate responded, “What? You’re joking, right?” and Robinson allegedly explained in detail how he had stashed his rifle after the shooting and needed to retrieve it, which he was unable to do.

“To be honest I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you,” Robinson allegedly wrote.

In the text exchange, Robinson said he’d been planning the attack for “a bit over a week,” Gray said.


By Paula Cohen

 

Robinson’s first court appearance will be virtual

Tyler Robinson will appear before a judge in the Utah Fourth District Court on Tuesday afternoon, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray said. Robinson’s appearance is scheduled for 3 p.m. local time (5 p.m. ET). At that hearing, Robinson will be informed of his charges, Gray said. The judge will also ensure that Robinson is represented by an attorney. 

The hearing will be brief, Gray said. It will be conducted virtually, he said, which is “not unusual” for the district. Gray said all first appearances in felony cases in the Fourth District are conducted virtually. 


By Kerry Breen

 

Robinson said cartridge engravings were “mostly a big meme”

In messages with his roommate, Robinson allegedly said engravings on the cartridges were “mostly a big meme.”

“If I see ‘notices bulge OwO’ on Fox News, I’m going to have a stroke alright,” Robinson allegedly said in a message reviewed by law enforcement and read aloud by Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray on Tuesday.

During a search of Robinson’s residence, police found another engraved cartridge. Gray did not say what was on that cartridge.  


By Kerry Breen

 

DNA evidence found on weapon, Utah County attorney says

DNA consistent with Tyler Robinson’s was found on the trigger and other parts of a rifle that was found near the crime scene, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray said.

DNA consistent with Robinson’s was also found on the fired cartridge casing and two of the three unfired cartridges, as well as on a towel that the weapon had been wrapped in, he said.

Robinson’s parents told officials that the gun description matched that of a gun that Robinson had been given as a gift, according to Gray. Robinson allegedly said in Discord messages that the rifle had belonged to his grandfather.  


By Kerry Breen

 

Robinson had become more political recently, mother allegedly told police

After Robinson confessed to the killing to his father and a family friend, he and his parents went to the police station so Robinson could turn himself in, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray said on Tuesday.

Robinson’s mother told police that her son had become “more political” and had “started to lean more to the left” over the past year, becoming more “pro-gay and trans rights,” Gray said.

Robinson’s mother also said that Robinson had begun to date his roommate, who was transitioning from male to female. That relationship resulted in difficult conversations between Robinson and his family members, especially his father, who had different beliefs, Gray said.

In one of those conversations, the Utah Attorney General continued, Robinson mentioned that Kirk would be holding an event at UVU. Robinson said the college was a “stupid venue” for the event and accused Kirk of spreading hate, Gray said.  


By Kerry Breen

 

Utah official calls Kirk’s murder “an American tragedy”

Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray called Kirk’s murder “an American tragedy” before announcing formal charges against Robinson.

“Charlie Kirk was murdered while engaging in one of our most sacred and cherished American rights, the bedrock of our democratic republic, the free exchange of ideas and the search for truth, understanding and a more perfect union,” Gray said.

Gray also shared his condolences and offered prayers on behalf of Kirk’s family and loved ones, and shared a message of support for those who witnessed the shooting at UVU.  


By Kerry Breen

 

Tyler Robinson charged with aggravated murder, could face death penalty

Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray charged Tyler Robinson on Tuesday with aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm, two counts of obstruction of justice, two counts of witness tampering, and committing a violent offense in the presence of a child.

The first two counts come with aggravating factors because the state believes Robinson targeted Kirk because of his political beliefs, and knowing that children were present and would witness the shooting.

The obstruction of justice charges were based on Robinson’s efforts to hide evidence from the shooting, Gray said. The witness tampering charges refer to Robinson allegedly telling his roommate to delete texts and not talk to officials, Gray said.

Gray said he filed a notice of intent to seek the death penalty in the case.

Robinson will continue to be held without bail, Gray said.  


By Kerry Breen

 

Patel addresses post about “subject” in Kirk shooting

The Senate Judiciary Committee asked FBI director Kash Patel on Tuesday about his decision to announce on X — hours after Kirk was killed — that “the subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody.”

The statement sparked confusion, since law enforcement on the ground in Utah said no suspect had been apprehended. Patel later issued a follow-up post saying the subject had been released.

Patel stood by the comments on Tuesday, saying that the FBI doesn’t only identify “suspects” but also interviews and eliminates “subjects” in investigations.

“What we had at the time was a subject in custody in relation to this investigation,” Patel said. “So in my commitment to work with the public to help identify subjects and suspects, I put that information out. And then when we interviewed him, I put out the results of that. And could I have been more careful in my verbiage and included ‘a subject’ instead of ‘subject?’ Sure.”

When Sen. Peter Welch of Vermont said Patel’s handling of the situation “was a mistake,” the FBI director disagreed.

“I don’t see it as a mistake,” Patel said. “I see it as something, working with the public to identify that there was a subject in custody.”  


 

Patel says FBI is investigating Discord chat

FBI director Kash Patel faced questions about the investigation in Kirk’s killing while testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

Patel told Sen. Josh Hawley of Missouri that the FBI is looking into a group chat on the messaging platform Discord that included the suspect in Kirk’s killing. Patel said the FBI is working to preserve the contents of the chat.

“Unfortunately, it has been leaked that there was a Discord chat … that the suspect participated in. So what we’re doing, we’ve already done is sort of the legal process, not just on Discord, so that the information we gathered is sustained and held in an evidentiary posture that we could use in prosecution should we decide to do so,” he said. “And we’re also going to be investigating anyone and everyone involved in that Discord chat.”

Patel said there were a “lot more” than 20 users involved in the chat. 


By Kathryn Watson

 

Suspect appeared to confess to killing on Discord, company says

Tyler Robinson appeared to take responsibility for shooting Charlie Kirk in messages sent to friends on the chat platform Discord, a company spokesperson said. 

“Hey guys, I have bad news for you all,” read a message from an account that allegedly belonged to Robinson, according to the spokesperson and a law enforcement source. “It was me at UVU yesterday. im sorry for all of this.” 

Members of the chat also recognized Robinson in images released by the FBI and asked if he was the shooter, according to the law enforcement source. Robinson did not seem to refute the question. In one exchange, the sources said a friend appeared to tease Robinson by quipping that he should avoid McDonald’s — where accused UnitedHealthcare CEO shooter Luigi Mangione was caught with a manifesto, a gun and a fake ID late last year.

The account appearing to belong to Robinson responded: “Better also get rid of this manifesto and exact copy rifle I have lying around.”

The messages, first reported by the Washington Post, were sent toward the end of the manhunt that ended with Robinson in custody late Thursday, Sept. 11. 

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Suspect held in special housing unit of Utah jail

Tyler Robinson is being held under special watch in a Utah jail, authorities said over the weekend. 

Robinson “will remain on a special watch status until cleared by mental health, which may take several days,” the Utah County Sheriff said in a statement Sunday. 

“This is done for various reasons ranging from: the types of crimes you’re booked on, behavioral issues, violent behavior, and/or suicidal comments made during the arrest,” the sheriff’s statement said. “The special housing unit has more close supervision as does our special watch.”

The sheriff noted that he hadn’t been made aware of any suicidal concerns or comments regarding Robinson.

Robinson is accused of aggravated murder, which could see him face the death penalty, life in prison without parole, or 25 years to life in prison with parole. He is also accused of obstruction of justice, which carries a penalty of up to 15 years in jail, and felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, which carries a penalty of five years to life in prison, according to the Utah County Attorney’s office.

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Texts between Kirk shooting suspect and roommate revealed – CNN

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  1. Texts between Kirk shooting suspect and roommate revealed  CNN
  2. Live updates: Charlie Kirk shooting investigation, suspect Tyler Robinson hearing  CNN
  3. Charlie Kirk Killing Live Updates: Suspect Faces Aggravated Murder Charge, and Death Penalty  The New York Times
  4. Live updates: Charlie Kirk suspected shooter Tyler Robinson attends hearing as Utah pursues death penalty  NBC News
  5. Everything we know about Charlie Kirk’s suspected assassin Tyler Robinson  The Independent



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Mortgage rates dropped sharply Tuesday, as investors in mortgage-backed bonds seemed to buy in ahead of a widely expected rate cut by the Federal Reserve.

The average rate on the 30-year fixed mortgage dropped 12 basis points from Monday to 6.13%, according to Mortgage News Daily. That is the lowest level since late 2022.

“The overall set-up is reminiscent of September 2024 when rates were doing the same thing for the same reasons ahead of Fed meeting with a virtual 100% chance of a rate cut,” said Matthew Graham, chief operating officer of Mortgage News Daily. “Back then, mortgage rates moved paradoxically higher after the Fed rate cut. The same thing could happen this time, but it’s by no means guaranteed.”

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It also follows historical trends. In a video podcast for CNBC’s Property Play, Willy Walker, CEO of commercial real estate firm Walker & Dunlop said there have been similar trends in the past.

“If you go back to 1980 and the nine Fed rate cut periods over that 45-year period, the ones where the Fed cuts in a recessionary environment end up pulling down the long end of the curve, pull down the 10-year, pull down the 5-year,” Walker said. “In those where it’s not a recession, which is like right now, it does not impact long-term rates. And so as much as I’m expecting us to see at least a 25 basis point cut, and then probably another 25 basis point cut, even if you take 50 basis points out of the short end of the curve, I don’t expect it’s going to impact the long end of the curve very much.”

He added that he thinks yields are well below where they will be two or three weeks from now.

“I don’t try to predict where rates are going, but I think people … might buy on the rumor and sell on the news. I think you probably see the 10-year sell off a little bit after the Fed actually announces their 25 basis point cut,” Walker said.



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